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Mobile Photography and Art ‘Hope in Adversity’ Interview with M. Cecilia São Thiago from São Paulo, Brazil


Today, we are publishing our eighteenth interview in our new series, Hope in Adversity. One that’s based around art, artists and isolation during the midst of Covid-19. This interview is with award winning mobile artist with M. Cecilia São Thiago from São Paulo, Brazil. São Thiago’s photographs are exquisite and allegorical in nature. Their vitality is instrumental in pulling the viewer into a very intimate world chronicling the self and beyond.  Mysticism and spirituality have long informed São Thiago’s practice and she is refreshingly transparent about her work.  She once told me, “my photos carry in each of them everything that I have learned, what I have lived, and what I have suffered”. This is a deeply honest interview, one that delivers all that we need to know. Sao Thiago explains “Sharing art is opening my little black book, where everything that hurts me is written, for everyone“. Enjoy!

To read others in this series of interviews with Jill Lian, Vicki Cooper, Gerry Coe, Sarah Bichachi, Sukru Mehmet Omur, Phyllis Shenny, Alisa Smith Williams, Joy Barry, Fleur Schim, Fiona Christian, Peter Wilkin, Ile Mont, Lynette Sheppard and Susan Latty, please follow this link

If you are social distancing or social isolating at this time, are you using any additional time you may have to create mobile digital art or photography?

Yes, I am also isolating at home during this coronavirus quarantine.  In the first few days I thought I would have time and tranquility to dedicate myself solely and exclusively to images.  So many jobs started, so many ideas that need a continuation, that I was even liking the idea.  I would have more time to continue the embroidery work on the photographs, liquid watercolor painting and collage with images and I wanted to create a new series reinterpreting classic works in these days of isolation.  But as the days went by I realized that a series of problems, that are inherent to this unusual situation, took up every second of my day.

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If so, have you noticed the style of art that you’re creating changing from what you would normally create?

The style of art that I am creating is always changing because I set out to create something different whenever I want to say something new.  It’s my way of creating series independent of each other like chapters in a larger storybook.

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If yes, to the above, can you explain how your art has changed?

I believe that at this moment when we are living full of uncertainties about what will happen, be it in relation to health, the economy, politics, security, interpersonal relationships etc … in our lives, when anxiety grows inside us, it is too early to explain how my art has changed.  But I already know in advance that, as in all difficult moments, the reflection will be printed on the images.

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Have you found additional inspiration to create at this time?

I don’t think that inspiration is something that happens only and exclusively involuntarily.  On the contrary.  It is necessary to seek from our bowels what moves us, what corrodes us, hurts us, and where the pain is greatest.  For me, art is not composed of frivolities or small joys.  For me, art is only complete and comprehensive if it took a piece of me to exist.  Art needs to be dense to make sense.

Art needs to be charged, nebulous, and full-bodied to make sense.  And for that to be so, I needed not only to learn to search within myself, what moves me.  But in addition to searching, I had to learn to translate this feeling into lines, shapes and colors.

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Is creating mobile digital art/photography, helping you at this time specially, how and why?

Creating for me is always the best way to look inside and thus decipher the messages that my alter ego and my unconscious are trying to convey to me.  Creation for me needs to be accompanied by a single song playing over and over and over in a kind of hypnotic mantra, which has the incredible ability to take from me what I didn’t know existed.  That is the healing power that I know art has.  When, after a while, I turn my gaze to what was created, and I perceive the reflection in the art of my momentary nature, I understand myself better

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Do you feel that sharing mobile art/photography at this time is spreading a unity of peace?

No, I don’t think that making or promoting art brings a unity of peace.  It is different!  Sharing art is opening my little black book, where everything that hurts me is written, for everyone.  That is why many artists find it difficult to sell or deliver their art onwards, I think.  But over time we have learned that the vast majority of viewers do not understand what we are talking about, and understand only what their subjective world translates, which gives a certain impassivity and tranquility in being naked before everyone.

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Anything else you would personally like to add…

The coronavirus is putting our system to the highest test.  Will we continue with our institutions and relations as before?

 In very few days of confinement, it seems to me clearer than ever that those who insist on showing authority and as such present themselves, are exactly the most insignificant.  Those who shout and demand deference with vehement complaining for respect, are the first to fail to obey simple rules of conduct and good coexistence. And I am not referring to politicians.

 My great-grandfather used to say a phrase that became commonplace in the family.

 «The adult from the height of his superiority who is unable to hear the younger voices, will learn only in his old age, that excellence is in the humility of learning.  »

 An invisible virus has placed an important part of the world in isolation.  An exile in their homes, an exile from normal social contact.  But I clearly see a virus spreading, capable of reversing the established rules and teaching what is needed and which has long been forgotten.

Thanks to Joanne Carter for this opportunity.  I am honored and pleased to participate on The App Whisperer, and very glad to be this awesome gallery ♥️

My Deepest Gratitude always 

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By Joanne Carter

Joanne Carter, creator of the world’s most popular mobile photography and art website—— TheAppWhisperer platform has been a pivotal cyberspace for mobile artists of all abilities to learn about, to explore, to celebrate and to share mobile artworks. Joanne’s compassion, inclusivity, and humility are hallmarks in all that she does, and is particularly evident in the platform she has built. In her words, “We all have the potential to remove ourselves from the centre of any circle and to expand a sphere of compassion outward; to include everyone interested in mobile art, ensuring every artist is within reach”, she has said.
Promotion of mobile artists and the art form as a primary medium in today’s art world, has become her life’s focus. She has presented lectures bolstering mobile artists and their art from as far away as the Museum of Art in Seoul, South Korea to closer to her home in the UK at Focus on Imaging. Her experience as a jurist for mobile art competitions includes: Portugal, Canada, US, S Korea, UK and Italy. And her travels pioneering the breadth of mobile art includes key events in: Frankfurt, Naples, Amalfi Coast, Paris, Brazil, London.
Pioneering the world’s first mobile art online gallery - has extended her reach even further, shipping from London, UK to clients in the US, Europe and The Far East to a global group of collectors looking for exclusive art to hang in their homes and offices. The online gallery specialises in prints for discerning collectors of unique, previously unseen signed limited edition art.
Her journey towards becoming The App Whisperer, includes (but is not limited to) working for a paparazzi photo agency for several years and as a deputy editor for a photo print magazine. Her own freelance photographic journalistic work is also widely acclaimed. She has been published extensively both within the UK and the US in national and international titles. These include The Times, The Sunday Times, The Guardian, Popular Photography & Imaging, dpreview, NikonPro, Which? and more recently with the BBC as a Contributor, Columnist at Vogue Italia and Contributing Editor at LensCulture. Her professional photography has also been widely exhibited throughout Europe, including Italy, Portugal and the UK.
She is currently writing several books, all related to mobile art and is always open to requests for new commissions for either writing or photography projects or a combination of both. Please contact her at:

One reply on “Mobile Photography and Art ‘Hope in Adversity’ Interview with M. Cecilia São Thiago from São Paulo, Brazil”

Cecília just so loved your words! I feel the hurt and pain also when I look at some of my creations.
Excellent interview

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